On the Urinal: Never. This is rude. Peeing is a semi private activity, halfway to taking a dumb. So be quite, stare to the wall and don’t even try to talk.

Locker Room: This is where the friendly and harmless look in the shower can become a “homo stare”. So no, and don’t ever try. Reason: It only OK looking at other’s nakedness when you are also completely naked. Otherwise you’ll put someone on the spot or create an awkward situation. Certainly you don’t want to be put on that spot, right?

Geez, do you reckon that our ancestor “cave men/women” had this discussion – they observed genitals for what they were, simple as. We are “too hung up” about “perceived” homosexuality etc. As to the recent trend of trimmed/shaved pubic area, “don’t even go there” – guess there will be some cosmetic cream/scent/aroma available – if there isn’t already…

Most of my Gay friends refer to themselves as “Queer” or “Fags” but I prefer my 16 year old hetero son to use a more neutrally acceptable term. (Not that he will…) And, when coming from Other People, most Gay men around here don’t really prefer “homo,” unless you know them, but I think it is different depending on the Community you live in.

I know African Americans who use the N word, and “prefer” it between freinds, but I certainly don’t want my children using it. I think what some groups call themselves is not always what they prefer from other people. It again, depends on the area you live in and how well you know the person.

Mind you, it doesn’t matter one way or another here, considering during Pride week (especially on the day of the big pride parade) it’s hard not to walk into a naked homosexual (and more often than not what you’re walking into is a little hard. A little less so when I do it being a girl, but my buddy [being not gay but very gay friendly] walked into a few awkward situations that day…)

Anyway, that all is besides the point.
I was under the impression that the difference between show-ers and grow-ers would have negated the need to look. The aforementioned buddy can fit in one of my hand if I do anything before he’s expecting it, and within a few minutes is too big for me to wrap my hand around, or cover completely lengthwise with both hands.
So what would be the point of trying to judge him in the locker room?

Hey, My man and I DIDN’T do this to OUR boy. There’s my story of HOW I talked my husband into the idea that we were NOT going to cut our son, on the thread about circumcision. In fact, most of my friends, (mostly earth mother types, but not all) have left their sons the way Nature made them. When I was dating, an uncut member was very very rare, you had to date either a European Guy (yum) or the child of some early hippies. Things HAVE gotten better here.

For the USA, a 50% circ rate is actually progress. Anyway, there is an other thread where the entire thing is about circs.