3/30/10
Wise Guys: Can't Women Ask Men Out?

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Advice from three of our guy friends. This week a straight woman asks, “Why do some guys get freaked out if a woman asks them out, and act like she’s desperate? Is it because they feel like they have to say yes? Or does it actually make a woman seem less attractive to some guys, if she’s playing the opposite of hard-to-get? Do guys make assumptions about what a woman is like, based on the fact that she asks him out?

wiseguy_benStraight Married Guy (Ben): I would guess one of two things is happening here. Either you’re dealing with a really immature guy — a guy who doesn’t have a lot of experience with dating or who isn’t all that confident in himself — or you’re dealing with a guy who just doesn’t want to go out with you. Either way, there’s a strategy here for easily figuring out how a guy is going to react before you ask him out. It’s called “flirting.” Start slow, toss an innuendo here, a very casual touch there. If he returns the flirt then start ramping it up. Really, everyone – man or woman – should have a pretty clear idea what the answer is to “Will you go out with me?” before you even ask it. You’ve achieved “expert” flirting status when you can get your mark to ask you out first. Saves you money on the date while you decide whether he’s good enough for you.

Gay Commited Guy (Bradford Shellhammer): Yes, some men like women who are quiet, who play the part of the damsel in distress. They like the power struggle. For those guys I imagine it could be a turn-off. But for every one of those guys, the ones intimidated by strong and direct women, I bet there are even more who’d be welcome to women making the first move, being the pursuer. Yes, guys — hell, everyone — makes assumptions about people based on first impressions. Nothing new there. But women should be more aggressive with dating and asking guys out. I think it would, in the long run, save them a lot of headache.

anonymous_suitStraight Single Guy (Max): I like a girl who is hard to get. Us dudes like the thrill of the hunt and the time during which we don’t know if anything is going to happen. When a girl asks me out it is (most of the time) a thrill, but quite different from working hard for a lady, and eventually getting what you want. Suddenly, you realize that you are the hunted and this can
be either amusing and awesome, or a frightening realization that your game ain’t up to snuff. Personally, I’m quite intrigued by any girl who has the guts to ask me out. A girl who knows what she wants is a good thing. For all ladies considering such moves, however, I will point to this question as a good indication for the risks involved. We CAN get freaked out and you CAN look desperate if you do this in the wrong manner. If you ask a guy out, give him options. Let him feel a bit of power by picking the location, time or whatever. Just don’t walk up to him and tell him to take you out this Saturday and that you love sushi. Even if you’re a total babe, this is a strange move and will spook most men.

Our “wise guys” are a rotating group of contributors, some of whom wish to remain anonymous and some of whom like the attention. This week’s Straight Married Guy is Ben, a writer and artist living in Los Angeles who runs AdultParlorGames.com; our Gay Guy is fellow SUN blogger Bradford Shellhammer, the creative director of fabulis and a New York Times featured decorator; and our Single Straight Guy, Max, is a recent college grad in New England. To ask the guys your own question, click here.

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Samantha
Samantha
2 years 22 days ago
I think this day and age women have to take more initiative. Guys are too scared to ask women out for fear of rejection; they don’t want their ego bruised. I have asked a few guys out and they have not had any problems with it. Granted this has only been two guys including The guy I am dating now. I asked him out because he was trying to hint at it, but never made the follow through. We have been dating for 2.5 months now. Ever since then he started asking me out–now it is just implied that we… Read more »
dave
dave
3 years 3 months ago

I guess that the tide IS turning if fewer men are approaching women these days.Naybe men got fed up with this and tried to obtain more vslue snd respect. I hope that this is the case.

Christina
Christina
3 years 8 months ago
I have asked A guy out and although he said no because he was in a relationship he seemed to be genuinely flattered. I can’t believe how far behind we are in this subject. I thought I would find a lot more positive articles on Internet about women asking men out but I haven’t seen that many. I agree with some of the previous posts that I’m not so into the man chasing woman only nor do I consider myself overtly aggressive. This may sound a little out there but I went to be in a mutual type of relationship… Read more »
Francessca
Francessca
4 years 1 month ago
I have never asked a guy out before but I have made the first move with a guy. He reciprocated but then quickly backed off and I never heard from him again. I found it interesting that most women commenting here have found that when they have asked guys out it has had negative results and this was obviously my experience too but I always felt it was because I had misread the signs but perhaps he was intimidated by me taking control. Who knows? I have also found that men do indeed tend to pursue you harder when you… Read more »
James S
James S
4 years 1 month ago
I was looking up a similar topic to this but I found this thread, which I’ve found interesting. This issue affects me as a guy as well as my sister too so I feel inclined to post a response on here, despite the thread being 2 years old. In very simple terms I think that the root of many men responding negatively to women who approach men comes down to two things; sexism and pride. This form of sexism starts at birth in blue being for boys and pink being for girls. As a person of each sex (and ultimately… Read more »
Jason Tufaga
Jason Tufaga
4 years 6 months ago
Men like it when women ask way more than women like it when men ask. So you might think that men don’t like it, but we like more than women do. A women who asks guys out will get way more dates than a guy who asks women out. I think sometimes women get rejected and then say that they were rejected because men don’t like aggressive women, but they are using that as an excuse so that they don’t feel rejected. A man could never use that excuse. Imagine a guy saying that he always gets rejeted because women… Read more »
Tracy Lynn
Tracy Lynn
4 years 9 months ago
Johnny and SS are dialed in! and suggest that you read their posts from both a male and female perspective…Most confident men that I know…and are interested in a woman, flirt, and ask them out.Period. If you guys are too afraid, get use to your hand for lovin, and you can rant all you want about being 2011 and equal rights blah, blah, blah, but fact is women rarely ask men, and face it, most of you that get asked out really are not interested or intrigued by that particular woman. You are then wondering if she looking for sex,… Read more »
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