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1. Em and Lo, I didn”t know this. I only took this stuff a few times, and although I am not a good sleeper, it knocked me out in about 10 minutes, not to wake up for about 7 hours.

   As for Tiger, I’m not really following that story. 😉 “An other celeb cheats….” I don’t even know the man. 😉

2. EmandLo-
   I *thought* you might have had your tongues in your cheeks when you picked the word “abuse.” Unfortunately, I was born without a sense of humor and couldn’t really tell. Besides, they started it.

3. Bettyboo-
   The generic name for Ambien is zolpidem (the patent expired in 2007) and it’s available under a wide range of trade names, such as: Adormix, Ambien, Ambien CR, Edluar, Damixan, Hypnogen, Ivedal, Lioran, Myslee, Nytamel, Sanval, Stilnoct, Stilnox, Stilnox CR, Sucedal, Zoldem, Zolnod and Zolpihexal. The ‘CR’ types are extended-release versions. It’s a short-acting nonbenzodiazepine hypnotic used for short-term treatment of insomnia. Recreational use isn’t too widespread but there’s some indication that it’s increasing here in the U.S.

4. Mademoiselle: I think Tiger Woods would disagree with you there, if you believe the gossip rags. 🙂 Apparently if you stay awake after taking Ambien, the sex is pretty wacky.

5. maybe a glass of wine but basically feel all of the named substances only take away from every breath,touch,smell,taste, feeling, every nuance of the experience .

6. Ah, don’t think we have it in the UK, at least not under that name..

7. Bettyboo Ambien is a prescription sleeping pill. Most people take it and conk right out. I can’t see having sex while on it, unless your partner is into date rape. 😉

8. what’s ambien..? and I can’t comment on most of the drugs here as other than alcohol I’ve either never or very rarely used them, but when I’m drunk I can’t seem to ‘finish’ no matter how horny I am, so it’s sober sex for me everytime, I don’t seem to need booze to lower my inhibitions, my sexy boyfriend seems to have been enough to rid me of any I had ;0)

9. My DOC isn’t listed. As a Chronic Pain Patient I can’t function sans medication- so sex without “drugs” is a no fly zone. So maybe the ambien choice could be prescription medication?

10. For what it’s worth, we were using the term “abuse” irreverently.

11. There is a HUGE difference between “Use” and “Abuse” like slartibart said, if one can function, work, feel pleasure without the substance, etc it ISN’T abuse.

    The once a month (or whatever, once a week, once a year twice a week) decision to smoke a joint, while the rest of your life continues as it would if the substance were never there is — USE, while not being able to eat, sleep, work, have sex or feel pleasure unless you constantly smoke weed is AB– USE. (Put ANY other substance in the place of pot, from cigarettes to booze to opium to porn to television to Facebook. Really.)

    Also, some substance DO have clinical usage, and even if used daily, it’s use is NOT abuse. Take a chronic pain patient who needs Oxycodone, Hydrocodone, morphine, Darvon etc to survive the day, this person may function normally while using the drug, feel no “high” but be in excruciating pain and become unable to function without it. This type of use is NOT to “enhance” things, but survival. I think realizing there is a HUGE difference between “recreation use” “clinical use” and “abuse” of ANY substance is important.

12. It can’t help but be abuse if you’re in the business of selling substance abuse treatment or interdiction. In that case, there is absolutely NO benefit to recognizing a distinction between use and abuse. Other professionals who aren’t so invested in the current model do sometimes acknowledge such a difference. The motivation to use and the effect of the use on the user’s life are held by some in the field to be salient considerations. The inability to hold a job, maintain healthy interpersonal relationships, etc. strike me as critical metrics in answering the question of whether it’s use or abuse.

13. Caffeine is a recreational drug. Am I committing drug abuse every time I have my morning coffee?

    For the record, I haven’t used controlled substances in about 14 years.

14. Most legal and medical authorities do consider any recreational drug use to be drug abuse. From what I understand, the generally accepted definition of substance abuse is excessive use, which I have always understood to mean if you are drunk or high, you are abusing drugs. Substance abuse doesn’t mean doing it once every few months or whatever will do you any harm. I mean, it’s technically abuse of food to eat a whole tray of oreo cookies in one night – but in all likelihood, it won’t send you to the hospital.

    So yeah, smoking a couple bowls and then having sex is abuse. Just not necessarily dangerous.

15. Why does it have to be abuse? One can use drugs in a safe manner prior, and during sexual activities. Not all drug use, is abuse.

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